Finlander
23rd June 2008 - 09:42 AM
QUOTE (Bloodgrey @ Jun 23 2008, 08:39 AM)
| QUOTE (Finlander @ Jun 23 2008, 08:29 AM) |
| But if you really want to use Mr. L, make it like... A Mr. L android or something. |
Luigi posessed by Legion's power like the corrupted toads, that's all we need.
And of course Luigi's not playeble then in this level.
Ah! Finally! An explanation that's not contrived to the MAXX!
Coo'.
Bloodgrey
23rd June 2008 - 09:49 AM
| QUOTE (Finlander @ Jun 23 2008, 08:42 AM) |
Ah! Finally! An explanation that's not contrived to the MAXX!
Coo'. |
What do you mean by that?
Finlander
23rd June 2008 - 09:52 AM
Simple:
The only other sensible reasons would be:
Alternate dimensions, ...That's about it.
Yeah. It's all right if it's just jumping from dimension to dimension, but it would be sort of stupid to be like "I'm Luigi, but I'm from another dimension. ...Yeah.".
Bloodgrey
23rd June 2008 - 10:00 AM
So you meant that's the only solution what I said or what?
Prims
23rd June 2008 - 10:07 AM
Or Luigi could get in his Mr. L suit for the SHMUPS stage and Brobot would be playable.
Hopalongtom
23rd June 2008 - 10:12 AM
If you don't want the Luigi being kidnapped I'd go with him being cloned!
News update on the character mod though, I've finished adapting Luigi's Big and Leaf forms, copied from and some made by me based upon Bloodgrey's sheet!
A playable Mr. L will soon be a reality!
Gloopy
23rd June 2008 - 10:22 AM
Actually, I didn't like the thought of both Mr. L and Luigi being in the game before, but I really like the idea of Luigi being brainwashed into Mr.L-mode prior to being rescued. The boss fight should be what snaps him out of it (since the rescues can only happen once)
Bloodgrey
23rd June 2008 - 10:28 AM
Hopalongtom: We're looking forward for it.
Speaking of Mr. L(uigi) that theme should be in the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuRQxahvdbE
Gloopy
23rd June 2008 - 10:46 AM
Idea! How about Mr. L wanders the map like the Hammer Bros., that way, his inevitable reversion doesn't interefere with any of the level designs.
Finlander
23rd June 2008 - 10:51 AM
| QUOTE (Gloopy @ Jun 23 2008, 09:46 AM) |
| Idea! How about Mr. L wanders the map like the Hammer Bros., that way, his inevitable reversion doesn't interefere with any of the level designs. |
Before you go about making things where you unlock Luigi by fighting Mr. L, you should know that you get Luigi from the start of the game with Mario.
...Yeah.
Gloopy
23rd June 2008 - 10:53 AM
That hasn't really been confirmed yet has it? I even remember Judge saying that Mario is the only character you start with (a while back).
Hopalongtom
23rd June 2008 - 12:20 PM
Done Big Mr L (mostly copying from the sheet with miner editing, Racoon Mr L *splicing and editing), and I'm working on mini and then will be moving on to fire Mr L! (from scratch)
Here's a preview
Mew
23rd June 2008 - 12:31 PM
Again with the evil Luigi business... sigh...
Brobot could appear as a boss but having evil Luigi in? Considering the plot (Luigi is a playable character from the start), I can safely say that it won't be the case. Having playable Mr.L is useless ; we already have him as a playable character, except non-brainwashed.
But well, if you feel like making a sprite mod for Luigi, feel free to do so. Just don't expect evil Luigi to appear as an actual, separate character in-game.
As for reasons why he wouldn't appear, I think other users have already explained why (namely, the point about how contrived the plot would probably end up in order to include Mr.L).
No offense ; evil Luigi was cool in Super Paper Mario. But he has no place in this particular story.
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On a side-note... when you complete your Mr.L mod, please feel free to post it in the sprite mod thread. Considering the demands for Mr.L, I think it would make many people happy as your sprite edits are quite good.
Bloodgrey
23rd June 2008 - 12:57 PM
I'm really surprised about you mew. Because it's a fact about the world you developing (World 0) that it's the only World where you can't choose all the playable characters, so I think that could work for Luigi
if he turns into Mr. L for example by an infection of Legion.
BTW Idon't expect anything, months ago we talked about Mr. L with JS, he said if I want to sprite him, then let's do it, he the Dev Team will decide what will or won't be his role, I'm fine with that since that happened always, sadly none of my edits made into the game till now, but that just should happened becouse they just were not fitting into the conception what changed time by time at the begginig of the development of MKF (exacty MKF not previous versions).
I didn't expected him as a playable neither. I'm just doing my thing.
And I think Hopalongtom is just doing his modification of Luigi what is allowed I think.
BTW Hopalongtom: Looks great!
Dvv402
23rd June 2008 - 01:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mew @ Jun 23 2008, 11:31 AM) |
Again with the evil Luigi business... sigh...
Brobot could appear as a boss but having evil Luigi in? Considering the plot (Luigi is a playable character from the start), I can safely say that it won't be the case. Having playable Mr.L is useless ; we already have him as a playable character, except non-brainwashed.
But well, if you feel like making a sprite mod for Luigi, feel free to do so. Just don't expect evil Luigi to appear as an actual, separate character in-game.
As for reasons why he wouldn't appear, I think other users have already explained why (namely, the point about how contrived the plot would probably end up in order to include Mr.L).
No offense ; evil Luigi was cool in Super Paper Mario. But he has no place in this particular story.
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On a side-note... when you complete your Mr.L mod, please feel free to post it in the sprite mod thread. Considering the demands for Mr.L, I think it would make many people happy as your sprite edits are quite good. |
i know some people including me who feel opossit, i think mr.L sjould be a boss in this game, the reasons why would make sense, HES FROM A DIFFERENT DIMENSION! so it has to time paradoxes whatsoever, also Mr.L would want to attack our Luigi for being a good version of him
Prims
23rd June 2008 - 01:02 PM
The alternate universe excuse wouldn't really work. I still like my Playable SHMUP Universe Mr. L idea...
Hopalongtom
23rd June 2008 - 01:05 PM
I was going to edit my old post with this but meh, here it is!!
MINI L
I had to make him by recoloring the game sprites because Bloodgrey didn't make any mini sprites, they're a little crappy but I'm proud of some of the poses!
If you guys want I'll release a beta version now, cause I'm not going to do the Fire, Tanooki, Hammer, Spartan or Megaman versions tonight!
Bloodgrey
23rd June 2008 - 01:17 PM
Please don't start that "He's from an other dimension..." "But that's lame..." "But he's cool." arguement. If that starts I'll report to an admin for locking down the topic, even if it's about my contribution.
It's not decided if he will be in and if he wil than how, but I think we should stick with the "Legion's infection - Luigi's not playable in this level" version.
I like both Prims' SHUMP Ship, and Gloopy's Hammer Bros-like idea.
BTW Brobot battle themes:
1st Battle2nd Battle
Hopalongtom
23rd June 2008 - 01:49 PM
Those songs seem more approprite for the Star music, at least the middle part of the songs do! ;P I'll try and get an mp3 of them and put it with the Mr L mod!
Bloodgrey
24th June 2008 - 04:09 AM
I just searched for the Mr. L theme and I found these two themes too, one of them would be awesome for a SHUMPS Style brobot boss fight.
GREEN BULLET HELL(OR NOT)!
About Gloopy's idea: I think that could work if in the Shumps world there's a wandering Brobot, kinda like an abandoned ghost ship in the space, you touch it, roaster shows up, you choose character, then Luigi checks the ship, it catches him, infecting Lugi, Luigi turns into Mr. L. You beat the ship, then maybe a hammer bros style fight with MR. L and when you beated him, he turns back to Luigi.
About Prims' ide: I kinda dig that one too, using the Brobot as the sky pop, only problem is Brobot way to big for being a sky pop.
Hopalongtom
24th June 2008 - 08:03 AM
Now, the Fireflower form is proving a little difficult!
We either give him a white hat like Luigi has... and leave it at that, since thats the only surviving piece of his original clothes! The problem with this is it may be hard to see that he's got a powerup!
Or we do the full Black to green and green to black like Luigi's dungarees has! But since I'm using MS PAINT for this it's going to take F***ing ages! Also its not really going to look that nice as I'm doing a manuel pixel by pixel edit using the colour copy command, I've yet to find a program with a proper pallet editing program that I know how to use!
But unless somebody else wants to try giving MR L a Fireflower form for me that would be most helpful!
My third option, but is seems a little lazy is just give the regular Fire Luigi sprites a Mr L mask!
What do you guys think?
Bloodgrey
24th June 2008 - 11:25 AM
Personally I think the Cap is enough since the other power-ups are different.
Hopalongtom
26th June 2008 - 10:31 AM
I bring you
MR L!! Playable and EVERYTHING!
The only powerups not changed are the Megaman outfit and Spartan outfit, its hard to make it look like a mask behind the viser! For the megaman outfit I'll either wait for Protoman to be released or make it a MR M disguse! ;P
Anyway this is my release canditate Mr L!
Psychopath
26th June 2008 - 10:33 AM
| QUOTE (Hopalongtom @ Jun 26 2008, 12:31 PM) |
make it a MR M disguse! ;P
|
You idea theif.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I'm just kidding.
Hopalongtom
26th June 2008 - 10:52 AM
QUOTE (Psychopath @ Jun 26 2008, 05:33 PM)
| QUOTE (Hopalongtom @ Jun 26 2008, 12:31 PM) |
make it a MR M disguse! ;P
|
You idea theif.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I'm just kidding.
I've seen loads of Mr M fanart around before seeing your pic!
Psychopath
26th June 2008 - 01:56 PM
| QUOTE (Hopalongtom @ Jun 26 2008, 12:52 PM) |
| I've seen loads of Mr M fanart around before seeing your pic! |
Just saying that because that's my username on mfgg. I've been that for a while.
I haven't seen any fanart or anything anywhere. Where'd you find it?
Dvv402
27th June 2008 - 07:03 PM
so you think you can turn mario into mr.m?
Django
28th June 2008 - 04:44 AM
Make him Ms. M instead >.>
Hopalongtom
28th June 2008 - 05:54 AM
| QUOTE (Vic @ Jun 28 2008, 11:44 AM) |
| Make him Ms. M instead >.> |
I have found 3 sprites of a female Mario! ;P a standing and one walk frame, for a "nearly" SMB3 style "Maria Mario"! ;P
It'll take along time to actually make anything off it, but it looks rarther nice
As for the MR M, you want him as Mario's edit or as the Mario suit Luigi one?
Bloodgrey
28th June 2008 - 06:38 AM
I personally think, it would be fun to see Mario as Mr. M, give it a try.
Irockz
17th July 2008 - 10:55 AM
bump
To go with your evil versions of characters, What would sonic be?
TheBlackKnightman
17th July 2008 - 11:59 AM
| QUOTE (Hopalongtom @ Jun 26 2008, 09:31 AM) |
I bring you MR L!! Playable and EVERYTHING!
The only powerups not changed are the Megaman outfit and Spartan outfit, its hard to make it look like a mask behind the viser! For the megaman outfit I'll either wait for Protoman to be released or make it a MR M disguse! ;P
Anyway this is my release canditate Mr L! |
The link doesn't work. It says the file has been removed.
Dvv402
17th July 2008 - 12:28 PM
someone made MR.M
Rugal Bernstein
18th July 2008 - 06:44 AM
Bro-Bot feels like if it was in the real game! Good work!
Hopalongtom
18th July 2008 - 09:26 AM
QUOTE (blackkyubi4758 @ Jul 17 2008, 06:59 PM)
| QUOTE (Hopalongtom @ Jun 26 2008, 09:31 AM) |
I bring you MR L!! Playable and EVERYTHING!
The only powerups not changed are the Megaman outfit and Spartan outfit, its hard to make it look like a mask behind the viser! For the megaman outfit I'll either wait for Protoman to be released or make it a MR M disguse! ;P
Anyway this is my release canditate Mr L! |
The link doesn't work. It says the file has been removed.
Sorry about that, I'm making an account with Megaupload so I can restore that!
Here is the
new Link!
Bloodgrey
2nd August 2008 - 07:25 PM
It just hit me.
The perfect solutoin for Mr. L being in the game.
Since we are working on Rayman's World, there's a boss called Mr. Dark, one of his magical powers is creating evil duplications of characters. Like there was a Dark Rayman in Rayman. Problem solved.
Obreck2
8th August 2008 - 06:45 PM
| QUOTE (Gloopy @ Jun 23 2008, 12:53 PM) |
| That hasn't really been confirmed yet has it? I even remember Judge saying that Mario is the only character you start with (a while back). |
No Luigi has been confirmed to be playable from the start. It was decided shortly after he was made playable.
The Qu
8th August 2008 - 09:14 PM
I've got an idea for Brobot and Mr. L: Boss of Luigi's nightmare level, Lonely Rock. The title makes it sound like it plays upon Luigi's sense of insecurity and alienation. What better way to prey upon this than by having him confront the time he was evil?
The fight would start out against Brobot. The fight would be similar to the one in SPM: He'd use the lasers, missles, etc. The boomerang 'stache would be rad as well. He's throw bombs at you and try to suck you in. You'd throw the bombs in to do damage.
Afterwords, Mr. L comes out. He'd also fight similar to his game version. But he'd also be able to throw fireballs and boomerangs since he's evil Luigi. Another attack would be an earthquake type Super Jump that leaves you stunned. Pretty much everything would work on him, but as the fight goes on he uses more and more fire and boomerangs in a sort of bullet hell that leaves an increasingly small window to attack him safely (everything woiuld work, I guess. But stomps would be the most effective by far.).
After a great deal of damage is inflicted, he unleashes his most powerful attack: Negative Zone. Luigi's Final Smash from SSBB, the trophy reffered to it as the manifestation of the negative feelings of living in his brother's shadow for so long. The attack would be a large spherical area of negative coloring. When Luigi is in it, it'd slow him down/ reverse his controls/ or something along those lines. If he stays in it long enough, it will damage him. The key to beating him after this is wait for Mr. L to cease the Zone for a few seconds to recharge, then go in and stomp him.
Alternatively, Brobot would make a rad SHMUPS boss.
Hope you guys like the suggestion!
SuperScatman96
17th October 2008 - 08:25 AM
Yes, I like it.We must be find a very very fast way to code it all, and it's done.
20 Guns of Shadow
17th October 2008 - 01:58 PM
| QUOTE (SuperScatman96 @ Oct 17 2008, 07:25 AM) |
| Yes, I like it.We must be find a very very fast way to code it all, and it's done. |
1. Stop necroposting its starting to get annoying
2. I believe Saturn already coded a brobot in his engine
Bloodgrey
18th October 2008 - 02:09 AM
Also we discussed this already with JS that he will be a secret boss soehow in SHUMPS Domain, leave alone the old topics, don't BUMP.
The Qu
18th October 2008 - 10:28 PM
| QUOTE (Bloodgrey @ Oct 18 2008, 01:09 AM) |
| Also we discussed this already with JS that he will be a secret boss soehow in SHUMPS Domain, leave alone the old topics, don't BUMP. |
Where was this talked about? And will Mr. L be involved at all?
Bloodgrey
19th October 2008 - 08:03 AM
Somewhere it's there at the abandoned part of the forum. I don'zt know. I'm sure he's not plot related because of the massive fanboyism and bitching that his presence caused.
SuperScatman96
31st October 2008 - 09:37 AM
QUOTE (shadowgun20 @ Okt 17 2008, 12:58 PM)
| QUOTE (SuperScatman96 @ Oct 17 2008, 07:25 AM) |
| Yes, I like it.We must be find a very very fast way to code it all, and it's done. |
1. Stop necroposting its starting to get annoying
2. I believe Saturn already coded a brobot in his engine
I mean Mr. L himselve
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