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ctsspart
I know you said guys said Tails/Sonic halo power up would be a force field, but would it make more sense if Tails halo Power up would be a Halo Drone because both of them can fly and Sonic a Spartan.

Halo Sonic Pictures
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And a Picture of a Drone
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MageBones
QUOTE (ctsspart @ Oct 23 2008, 08:14 PM)
I know you said guys said Tails/Sonic halo power up would be a force field, but would it make more sense if Tails halo Power up would be a Halo Drone because both of them can fly and Sonic a Spartan.


I definitely say those suits would look awesome.
Definitely better than a wimpy little shield.

The suits would be just for looks, but still. AWESOME.
I definitely support this.
I support the looks of having suits for different power-ups instead of shields.
I'd say the barriers are a little over-used...
The Qu
I 100% support Tails as a Drone. I really like that idea.
Shard
The dev team said no more spartans. Would Sonic fit more with something like the Flood? Flood Sonic. Heh.
Mew
It was already agreed that Sonic and Tails will get shields and throwing fan art at us will not change this fact.

Besides, due to balance issues, even if it was accepted they would only get new skins for their Spartan power-up ; it is final that all they get from the Spartan power-up is the force field effect.

I am sorry but I will have to shoot down this idea.
Poppants
Well, I at least think they need new costumes.

...I mean, it seems like a big rip-off for everybody else to get a Spartan suit except for them. They have a Mega Man suit, why not a Spartan suit?

It's fine if those are the only abilities they get, but even if it really isn't important, they should get new costumes. Seems a bit lazy for them not to, anyway.

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At the least. Or at least, that's what I think.

And Drone Tails would be freaking awesome.

EDIT: By this I mean no change in abilities, just in look.
ctsspart
So I guess we will just have the force fields instead...
MageBones
QUOTE (Mew @ Oct 24 2008, 05:48 AM)
It was already agreed that Sonic and Tails will get shields and throwing fan art at us will not change this fact.

Besides, due to balance issues, even if it was accepted they would only get new skins for their Spartan power-up ; it is final that all they get from the Spartan power-up is the force field effect.

I am sorry but I will have to shoot down this idea.

Before you do...

I gotta say, I like the idea of a Skin to go with the barrier.
That is something I'd like to see... Tails with a Drone Suit,
And Sonic with a... a... (Jackal Suit? Grunt Suit? I'm drawing a blank on the actual suit design)

I don't mind if he doesn't get a weapon or projectile to go with it.
For Balance issues, go ahead and blast that idea.

I just want to see the suit look like a REAL crossover powerup.
It IS a crossover power-up... It could at least LOOK like one. dry.gif
Dvv402
I think they have to many sheild and an actual halo suit for them would be nice, im not saying to chance what it does but how many sheild powerups do sonic and tails use again, woudlnt it be nice for sonic to have another suit besides megaman suit?
RisingManes
I support the idea of having a suit for cosmetic purposes... but we would have to do it ourselves. NO Body and all the spriters are tied down with homework---I mean MKF. Besides, it's just an edit of Sonic and Tails. No additional poses or anything (other than the melee one they're gonna throw in now). How hard can it be?

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Yeah. But still, we don't have to redraw them.
ctsspart
Anyone any good sprite Tutorials/Programs?

I just wanna try to make one
20 Guns of Shadow
QUOTE (ctsspart @ Oct 24 2008, 09:31 PM)
Anyone any good sprite Tutorials/Programs?

I just wanna try to make one

good ol MS paint.
ctsspart
I did some stuff look at the bottom right. Should I continue or stop?
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MageBones
QUOTE (ctsspart @ Oct 26 2008, 08:05 PM)
I did some stuff look at the bottom right. Should I continue or stop?

Continue, but Darken the Visor and 'Eye Shield Thing'.
It's Too Bright.

Also, there's no part that separates Sonic's Helmet from his Body.

Overall a good job, though.
Dvv402
QUOTE (ctsspart @ Oct 27 2008, 12:05 AM)
I did some stuff look at the bottom right.  Should I continue or stop?

they already said no more spartans, all it looks like you did was recolor sonic and add a little visor
deathwing107
It looks ok. It's just... Can't we make Sonic something else Halo-related other than Master chief as a cosmetic replacement? Mario, Luigi, and Arthur (and I think Kirby, not sure) are already Master-Chief related with their Halo powerups. I think he'd fit better as a hunter, even if Roll might have that as a Halo powerup as well. Hunters are blue and have what looks like spikey hair.

Or maybe Sonic could be simply look like an Elite in Blue Armor.
Shining Gundam
I think a blue elite would be a good idea for sonic too.
DC Hunk
Even they said no, I think we should make a skin for there spartan suits just for cosmetical reasons. How about everybody is helping like with Dry Bowser? Remember: Poppants started working on him and many people helped him and now he is looking fantastic right now.
Maybe when the dev team see how nice they'll come out they will replace them instead of these boring shields.
AdminJS
If you will be giving Sonic and Tails Halo costumes, make it be something other than Master Chief and Spartan suits.

We have three Spartan suit users: Mario, Luigi, and Kirby, four if you count Arthur's futuristic green Halo suit.
ledzepple
QUOTE (Sharis Valmanum @ Oct 24 2008, 05:31 AM)
The dev team said no more spartans. Would Sonic fit more with something like the Flood? Flood Sonic. Heh.

i like the idea of a flood infested sonic
StrikerMan780
Sonic = Blue Elite or hunter
Tails = UNSC Pilot(like foe-hammer) or Covenant Drone.. or even a Jetpacking Elite.
Roll = Hunter(As Currently Planned) or Cortana

those are what I can think of.
Shard
Samus is Cortana.
StrikerMan780
Why must people insist on refusing to read the rest of my posts just to point out one little minuscule thing? Samus is cortana, ok Fine. But, What about the others, got any opinions on that?
Shard
I've already given my opinion. I'm fine with the idea of Drone Tails, but I'd like to see Sonic as something related to the Flood.
Murph9935
QUOTE (Mew @ Oct 24 2008, 05:48 AM)


Besides, due to balance issues, even if it was accepted they would only get new skins for their Spartan power-up ; it is final that all they get from the Spartan power-up is the force field effect.


That's basically what we were thinking.

Also, I'm not really seeing Flood Sonic working out too well. It'd be kinda hard to work the force field in there. I can kinda see it working if he retains the visible shield and it flashes spastically, or something of that nature, but I dunno.

If we do find some way of it working, a couple suggestions:

~The power up sprite could be a miniaturized Infection form

~When he's hit, a kickable infection form could pop out of him, except with blue speckles.

~He could carry stuff with one hand

~He could have animated tentacles sticking out of his chest
Ben66
It's not really a 'rip-off' for Sonic & Tails not to have a Halo costume when using the Halo power-up. Keep in mind all of Sonic & Tails' power-ups have been pretty much shields, and it worked before.

Besides, I can't really envision anyone from Halo that the two could dress up as in the power-up.

Keep in mind the character's personalities. Sonic probably wouldn't want a Spartan Suit, cause the armor would just slow him down. Tails most likely doesn't want to turn into some creepy alien creature upon getting the power-up.

They're perfectly fine with force fields. Can't have every character and their grandma wearing a Spartan Suit, can we?
Hopalongtom
I'd say give it a skin slot, and somehow have a way to toggle the sheild effect on or off when making a skin for the suit?
MageBones
I got it.

Orbital Drop Storm Trooper Sonic.
Or, in other words, Hell Jumper Sonic, or ODST Sonic.
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The Swordsman
The spartan suits are better than the sheilds, nice artwork
Spark Mandrill
Welcome to the forums, new guy.

Anyway, I don't think a Spartan Suit or a Drone works for Sonic & Tails.

Stormtrooper Sonic might work, but I think they should just stick to using shields.
Dvv402
QUOTE (tcox @ Oct 31 2008, 09:13 AM)
The spartan suits are better than the sheilds, nice artwork

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>__>

they already said no more spartan suits, we already have like four of them, sonic would need to be something else
The Swordsman
QUOTE (HirokiIzamaki @ Oct 27 2008, 06:40 PM)
I think a blue elite would be a good idea for sonic too.

I support this idea, elites team up with earth against the high prophets in halo how about Arbiter Sonic? ph34r.gif
RisingManes
QUOTE (tcox @ Nov 5 2008, 11:16 AM)
how about Arbiter Sonic? ph34r.gif

No can do. This will probably be used for Link.

Blue Elites, though, are a good idea, but Sonic will be given large feet. rolleyes.gif
enclave_mike
QUOTE (RisingManes @ Nov 5 2008, 05:07 PM)
QUOTE (tcox @ Nov 5 2008, 11:16 AM)
how about Arbiter Sonic? ph34r.gif

No can do. This will probably be used for Link.

Blue Elites, though, are a good idea, but Sonic will be given large feet. rolleyes.gif

and some kind of plasma pistol. it would be sonic's second projectile form...
DC Hunk
QUOTE (Master chief a.k.a AVGN @ Nov 6 2008, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (RisingManes @ Nov 5 2008, 05:07 PM)
QUOTE (tcox @ Nov 5 2008, 11:16 AM)
how about Arbiter Sonic? ph34r.gif

No can do. This will probably be used for Link.

Blue Elites, though, are a good idea, but Sonic will be given large feet. rolleyes.gif

and some kind of plasma pistol. it would be sonic's second projectile form...

No new abilities, the changes in their looks would be just for cosmetical reasons
DarkShadowX7
Sonic=Blue Elite
Tails=Drone
The Swordsman
QUOTE (DC Hunk @ Nov 6 2008, 06:23 AM)
QUOTE (Master chief a.k.a AVGN @ Nov 6 2008, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (RisingManes @ Nov 5 2008, 05:07 PM)
QUOTE (tcox @ Nov 5 2008, 11:16 AM)
how about Arbiter Sonic? ph34r.gif

No can do. This will probably be used for Link.

Blue Elites, though, are a good idea, but Sonic will be given large feet. rolleyes.gif

and some kind of plasma pistol. it would be sonic's second projectile form...

No new abilities, the changes in their looks would be just for cosmetical reasons

So it would be cool and give a relief to all those sheilds besides Quickman Sonic tongue.gif
DC Hunk
I would like to try my hands on them, but I need Sonics sprite sheet (his old one and his new one) and Tails sprite sheet.
Captain_Cook
I support for cosmetic reasons, anyway.

@ DC Hunk: You already have the old version of Sonic and Tails if you downloaded 0.2. tongue.gif

But... Sonic's newer sprites should be floating around here somewhere...
DC Hunk
QUOTE (John the Baptist @ Nov 9 2008, 03:01 AM)
I support for cosmetic reasons, anyway.

@ DC Hunk: You already have the old version of Sonic and Tails if you downloaded 0.2. tongue.gif

But... Sonic's newer sprites should be floating around here somewhere...

Yeah I know, but I am not gonna open each folder and put each sprite together to a sheet (sorry too lazy^^) and for the newer ones I've no idea where, so I ask you people to find them, otherwhise I can't try to sprite them..
Poppants
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>_>

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No offense, DC, but it really isn't that hard looking. tongue.gif

It's in the Community Dev board, for future reference.
DC Hunk
QUOTE (Poppants @ Nov 9 2008, 03:18 AM)
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>_>

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No offense, DC, but it really isn't that hard looking. tongue.gif

It's in the Community Dev board, for future reference.

I am sorry sad.gif , but thanks anyway!
But I just need the old version and Tails sprites too.
Poppants
No problem, man, sorry if you took that as some sort of insult. You're too awesome to be insulted, you know. wink.gif

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Took a bit to find, but here they are!

Just curious, but why do you need the old Sonic sprites?
DC Hunk
Man thank you a lot!
And thanks, I did not take it as an insult, you are cool too^^

Oh and I need the old ones because I personally like them more and would use the old ones in future and for all people who are sharing this opinion I would do the Halo edit too.

Thanks again smile.gif
Mew
OK... this is an update.

I and Judgespear have spoken and we have agreed that the shields are staying.

The reasons are as such:

Sonic & Tails's Halo power-up was never a true Halo power-up to begin with. Namely, it is the Magnetic Shield, a stapple of the Sonic serie post Sonic 2.

It has the same electric arc effect as in Sonic Advance and even have the ring attraction effect. The only real edit is that it's yellow rather than blue and have the Halo force field effect added in.


Due to this, replacing it with a Halo suit or Flood suit wouldn't work.


Furthermore, the main draw of the Halo suits, excluding the force field effect, is the melee weapons that come with them. Sonic and Tails already have advanced melee combat abilities due to their spin attack and spin dash, making the addition of a permanent weapon useless.


So, we're not replacing the Magnetic Shield with Halo or Flood suits.

Doesn't mean that Judgespear was lying when he said we were considering reskinning though ; the Magnetic Shield is the wrong color and could be improved graphically (like most other shields) after all.


I hope this will help clear out the issue.
Murph9935
QUOTE (Mew @ Nov 17 2008, 08:23 PM)
Furthermore, the main draw of the Halo suits, excluding the force field effect, is the melee weapons that come with them. Sonic and Tails already have advanced melee combat abilities due to their spin attack and spin dash, making the addition of a permanent weapon useless.


We didn't want that in the first place. We just wanted cosmetic changes.
DarkShadowX7
QUOTE (Mew @ Nov 17 2008, 08:23 PM)
the Magnetic Shield is the wrong color and could be improved graphically (like most other shields) after all.

The sheild could be improved more to look like the Halo 3 Bubble Sheild.
DC Hunk
Jep, I will make a skin for them (like for Luigis Bee and Bunny suit), when I am done with Wario and other stuff.
So even if Mew and the others disagree you can play with it smile.gif
Bowser Jr. Dude
OK....so why couldn't Sonic/Tails have a shield and then like have a halo helmet? =\ No?
Kilometers Persecond
When was this agreed on? I remember JudgeSpear saying the Sonic and Tails powerups were reopened with the Halo world expanding to include other franchises.
Maximus
Before you tell me anything, I like the "bubble" halo Shields that our team decided to give to Sonic and Tails... But... Just take a look at these...

http://www.themysticalforestzone.com/sprit...ils/HaloFox.gif

And imagine these green on green...

http://www.themysticalforestzone.com/sprit...oidsonic_WG.png

http://www.themysticalforestzone.com/sprit...etroidTails.gif

The last 2 are from metroid... but... paint it green (not black, lol)...

Still... the shield they have now works 100%...
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The Swordsman
pretty cool,but they will probly critcize you for necro posting though
naton9
QUOTE (Hopalongtom @ Oct 29 2008, 04:05 PM)
I'd say give it a skin slot, and somehow have a way to toggle the sheild effect on or off when making a skin for the suit?

yes- put this option in well... the options menu. if you can turn off your life meter which does effect gameplay how about the ability to turn shield animation (that is not skinable) on or off for those who may have skined sonic or tails. Personally see shield on every powerup even if it was in their games is as tiring as seeing the master chief customs for every member.

also i loved the idea of drone tails- just in case you were wondering...which of course you were not.

btw i know this comment was posted a bit late but still wanted to deposit my 2cents
Maximus
QUOTE (tcox @ Jan 14 2009, 10:43 AM)
pretty cool,but they will probly critcize you for necro posting though

Well... I did not have time to pay attention to what I was posting... I just posted some links and when I realized they didn't work, I just used one gif attachment...

I have many Sonic sprites... I have even created a few sprites for characters like Fang and Knuspio (fusion betwen Knuckles and Espio)., altought the last one wasn't aproved... It wasn't finished to, but it is good enough already...

You can easly make Halo suits for Sonic and Tails, but thats what I think... I never done it before, so...

What I have realized... Sonic and Tails do not use any weapon with Halo suit, so, the "bubble" power shield is the best thing they could get...

( by the way... I think the only problem Sonic and Tails have, is the fact that they are not the sprites from Sonic 3 - never knew why )
The Swordsman
Yeah we a least need a skin with better sonic halo powerups
youno
I agree, Sonic and Tails should have more of a halo feel to it when you get the power up.

Sonic could maybe use the hammer or something

Tails could have the Drones following him like the birds
nuser_uame
The drone looks like a novistador from Resident Evil 4

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Maybe it's just me.
Kilometers Persecond
What about giving Tails a Half-Life Hazard Suit, with a gravity gun whose effect is limited to doing item pickups (ie. shells or ice blocks) at range, utilized with the fire button? It fits his character as the "smart guy", and while it has an offensive use it's quite limited. To differentiate it from the Halo powerups it could be given a permanent HP count instead of regenerating after a length of time.

Even without the added power, it'd still be a nice cosmetic look.
Miles "Tails XXX" Prower
Hello... it's bad idea! Sonic and Tails will have electric shields and Fusion Team (I think) don't change mind about that, and IT'S FINAL! mad.gif

P.S. All characters will have Halo Suit, except Sonic and Tails (I'm not sure about Kirby and Samus)
Impish
jeez its just a skin change idea. dry.gif .
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