After reading an old old old old old OLD topic here, I began thinking up an idea. What if Legion's appearance was revealed as time went on? Rather than to reveal everything at once, why not reveal information about him progressively through plot-heavy levels? For example...
W1 would reveal that there's an evil force at hand that can easily control the will of the malicious.
W2 would explain how various alliances (including The Old Coalition) would work against repelling Legion and eventually succeeding... For a while, anyway.
W3 would explain the existance of 2 alliances working under the force (LF would just be called "The Finest" or something like that).
W4 would reveal the force's name (As Bowser couldn't tell you due to Legion's spies being everywhere).
W5 would explain his power over worlds, and how he could easily turn them into nightmarish lands if he pleases.
W6 would serve to show the origin of Legion, from his creation to his rise to power in the current events (seeing as it's optional).
W7 would show more backstory on the old coaltion.
W8 would show how he gained influence over worlds (more backstory, reveals certain events not shown in W6). However, it would make more sense when all backstory was revealed, not unlike the Ansem Reports in Kingdom Hearts.
W9 would reveal the existance of Legion's Dimension... Twisted Reality (note that this information would only be revealed torwards the end of the world).
W0 would finally show his true appearance and explain any backstory left unrevealed. Most of the backstory would be revealed in the second half of the world. In addition, it would also reveal a thing that Legion itself didn't know about, leading to the creation of The Abomination.
Note that this info wouldn't be set in stone as the devs can change it if it's added. Anyway, what do you all think?
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| QUOTE (Manfred Von Karma @ Jan 5 2009, 07:36 PM) |
| W5 would explain his power over worlds, and how he could easily turn them into nightmarish lands if he pleases. |
Problem is that untill this point there's no reason to go through universes.
Also It would be more mistcal but would hold back several already decided elements, also would be to slow, and several parts of the story as it seems have their own methods.
I think the story should be the dev teams job to think about.
That sounded very rude BG. Remember that this is ONLY an idea that explains Legion's presence throughout time rather than to do it all at once. I forgot to mention: The original suggestion was made by Mew. And the info listed is from what's been revealed. It can always be changed.
| QUOTE (Manfred Von Karma @ Jan 5 2009, 09:08 PM) |
| That sounded very rude BG. |
It's not my problem if you can't take criticism, I think if the story is not tought out that way it shouldn't be cahanged because it already has it methods.
If that's rude to you, you are oversensitive.
Actually, I think it was decided that Legion's Finest will be revealed in World 2, in the second Legion's Finest level.
Just as a heads up.
However, I don't think that having stuff like plot exposition be world-specific would be a good idea. There's no need to bar things in individual worlds.
Just as a heads up.
However, I don't think that having stuff like plot exposition be world-specific would be a good idea. There's no need to bar things in individual worlds.
QUOTE (Bloodgrey @ Jan 5 2009, 02:22 PM)
It's not my problem if you can't take criticism, I think if the story is not tought out that way it shouldn't be cahanged because it already has it methods.
If that's rude to you, you are oversensitive.
Does that not come across as rude to you? I can understand criticism but that was blunt and rude. Plus, that last sentence in your previous post was not needed.
But anyway... The whole idea was to reveal legion's presence as time goes on, rather than to explain it all at once. Some items on the list were fillers.
If that's rude to you, you are oversensitive.
| QUOTE (You) |
| I think the story should be the dev teams job to think about. |
Does that not come across as rude to you? I can understand criticism but that was blunt and rude. Plus, that last sentence in your previous post was not needed.
But anyway... The whole idea was to reveal legion's presence as time goes on, rather than to explain it all at once. Some items on the list were fillers.
No.
It doesn't.
They know the whole story.
You don't.
It doesn't.
They know the whole story.
You don't.
| QUOTE (Manfred Von Karma @ Jan 5 2009, 12:08 PM) |
| That sounded very rude BG. Remember that this is ONLY an idea that explains Legion's presence throughout time rather than to do it all at once. I forgot to mention: The original suggestion was made by Mew. And the info listed is from what's been revealed. It can always be changed. |
Comon, guys.
Bloodgrey's comment was perfectly fine. He was just giving some constructive criticism, and i don't see why you had to call him rude. Just because he said one sentence, it doesn't mean that your idea's are useless.
On topic. Isn't the story set in stone? I think the story should stay as it is, and if it needed to be changed; im sure Ben or a dev member would change it, i guess.
Bloodgrey, ENOUGH. I never said that I was the master of plot or whatever. Stop arguing with me before this becomes like that stupid debate over Pouncer that we had. There's a difference between criticism and saying "I'm right and you're wrong". I don't want to have to get a mod involved.
I'd just like to say that the way you said things to me sounded rude.
Typho: The story is mostly planned out. Certain plots for worlds haven't been fully assembled. The devs haven't said much about Legion other than he will be the game's main antagonist. Therefore I made this suggestion about how his role could develop as the game progresses.
I'd just like to say that the way you said things to me sounded rude.
Typho: The story is mostly planned out. Certain plots for worlds haven't been fully assembled. The devs haven't said much about Legion other than he will be the game's main antagonist. Therefore I made this suggestion about how his role could develop as the game progresses.
For what it's worth, I can see parts of it working, but some not. Given Snake seems to have already gone through this song and dance before, he might be able to reveal something if he so chose...Then again, Snake doesn't seem to be much for exposistion (Then again, he's rarely in the posistion of knowing more than you do...) so he simply might not elect to inform the Coalition. Of course, one could also get around that with the 'he doesn't like to think about it' approach, but that's lame. 
...Yeah, that's my two cents on the topic.
...Yeah, that's my two cents on the topic.
| QUOTE (Jtipton @ Jan 7 2009, 04:20 PM) |
| ...Yeah, that's my two cents on the topic. |
Same with me, you shoudn't go nuts on that, Clark. You are overreactive and can't accept others oppininon if they are different. You are saying I'm flaming you when it's clear by anybody else it's criticism.
Also threatening with mod power in an arguement is a cheap move.
Easy man, easy. What's wrong with you?
| QUOTE (Bloodgrey @ Jan 5 2009, 04:35 PM) |
| No. It doesn't. They know the whole story. You don't. |
This... Is what struck me to say that. It just sounded rude to me the way it was delivered.
I can accept people's opinions. I'm not a facist who says stuff like "ALL PEOPLE WHO LEIK X OVER Z ARE DUMB >:(".
Ben said that these elements were already planned for the game before I even suggested it.
Why is this in the Charecter suggestions?
Because Legion is a big charecter in the game...
Well, this could lead to great cutscenes!
Uhm, is there a Legion's Hideout or level like that yet where all the villians meet?
| QUOTE (theused @ Jan 18 2009, 12:34 AM) |
| Uhm, is there a Legion's Hideout or level like that yet where all the villians meet? |
I don't think they need one. Just the presence of legion corrupts their thoughts and their nature does the rest.