REGULAR LEVELS:
7-1: Green Hill Zone
7-2: Marble Bridge Zone
7-3: Casino Paradise Zone (combines various Sonic casino level together).
7-4: Thick Jungle Zone
7-5: Hill Top Zone
7-6: Sky Battery Zone
7-7: Magma Mine Zone
7-8: Labyrinth Zone
7-9: Ice Cap Zone
7-10: Havoc Canyon Zone (combines various canyon-setting Sonic levels).
7-11: Robotnikland (combines Robotnik's various bases such as Scrap Brain and Metropolis, etc.)
7-12: Egg Launch Zone
7-13: Death Egg Zone
SECRET LEVELS:
7-S1: Sandopolis Zone
7-S2: City Sprint
7-S4: Space Colony ARK
7-S6: Toyland
7-S7: Tides of Terror (Ecco the Dolphin level)
7-S8: Chaos Sanctuary Zone
7-S9: Tainted Toadstool Zone
7-S10: Toejam & Earl level
7-S10: Journey to Funkotron
I personally would say that this world is full, though you never know.
Full Version: World 7: Mobius
This is the first I read about a Golden Axe level...any more info? Golden Axe was always one of my favorite series as a kid.
Thinking about it though, although Golden Axe can definetly carry its own stage, it might be fun to have a "Sega fantasy games" stage with Golden Axe as its main focus, so that games like Phantasy Star, Shining Force, and Crusader of Centy can get some love.
Thinking about it though, although Golden Axe can definetly carry its own stage, it might be fun to have a "Sega fantasy games" stage with Golden Axe as its main focus, so that games like Phantasy Star, Shining Force, and Crusader of Centy can get some love.
Don't forget about Phantasy Star!
Hows Space Colony ARK going to be planned out? And maybe my Westopolis Dash level could get in somewhere, possibily either World 7 or World 2?
And what happened to the Think Jungle Zone?
Hey Ben, I made a TJ&E level idea, called "Funkotron". I have the level idea in my sig. Let me know if you think its good enough for 7-S13.
| QUOTE (Ben66 @ Feb 18 2009, 08:00 AM) |
| 7-S13: Toejam & Earl level |
kingofsupaht3ds: It's here.
| QUOTE (mr3urious @ Feb 18 2009, 08:10 AM) |
| Don't forget about Phantasy Star! |
Yeah, I mentioned Phantasty Star in my post, with Final Fantasy getting so much rep, it'ld think Phantasy Star would get more love. If a new Sega Level was going to be made though, I'ld rather have it represent more Sega RPGs (Shining Force especially.)
Hey, Ben, when you said Sky Battery Zone is a comaination of the Sky Fortress and Flying Battery Zone, don't you mean "Wing Fortress"? Or were you also including the Sky Chase Zone, too?
| QUOTE (mr3urious @ Feb 18 2009, 08:10 AM) |
| Don't forget about Phantasy Star! |
Yeah, I mentioned Phantasty Star in my post, with Final Fantasy getting so much rep, it'ld think Phantasy Star would get more love. If a new Sega Level was going to be made though, I'ld rather have it represent more Sega RPGs (Shining Force especially.)
Maybe there could be a level that represents several different Sega RPGs.
Bloodgrey: Oh yeah. Sorry 'bout that. 
I could see a SHUMPS section before Sky Battery.
Forgot about Thick Jungle Zone. Will add it in.
I hope my Shadow level can get in somehow....
Space Colony ARK should be accessed through a secret exit in Launch Base Zone.
| QUOTE (Ultimate Gamer @ Feb 18 2009, 02:35 PM) |
| I hope my Shadow level can get in somehow.... |
I was wondering about that. What's even complete so far with it, anyway?
QUOTE (Kilometers Persecond @ Feb 18 2009, 02:58 PM)
| QUOTE (Ultimate Gamer @ Feb 18 2009, 02:35 PM) |
| I hope my Shadow level can get in somehow.... |
I was wondering about that. What's even complete so far with it, anyway?
Not even close to done... Working on it now...
If Ice Cap Zone can get in, I think Lava Reef Zone should get in, too.
I'd love to see my Sky Chase shmups level idea, which combines elements from the Sonic 2 and Sonic Adventure versions, as a lead-in to Egg Fleet.
Topic http://mkfusion.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=3878
Topic http://mkfusion.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=3878
PLEASE TELL ME that this zone is open!!! 
I'm going to throw these two ideas out: House of the Dead GH and a Ristar level.
Wasn't there going to be a Vectorman level? I might be mistaken on that though.
Aw. And I was hoping I could eventually get in the Lava Powerhouse level I had planned.
Blarg. Forgot two of my levels. The Mean Bean Machine level and the Sonic Spinball level. (@Lars: I had previously suggested a Sonic Spinball level that combined all four areas).
I could never beat Sonic Spinball, mainly because the 2nd area was so annoying...
I hope you keep only a fraction of that annoyingness in the level. How will the Pins work, anyway?
I hope you keep only a fraction of that annoyingness in the level. How will the Pins work, anyway?
I personally would like to see Lava Reef in World 7 too since there's Ice Cap Zone as well and I really loved Lava Reef. 
One question out of interest: Why did you count the stages like Angel Island Zone, Sandopolis Zone and Chaos Hill Zone (or whatever it was called) as secret stages. In my oppinon those stages which base on real Sonic 2D stages should be regular stages. Because they base on real Sonic stages as I said and also because there should be more regular stages than secret stages.
AIZ, SZ, CHZ and Lava Reef Zone being changed as regular stages would make a total amount of 18 regular stages which is similiar to Mega Man world (world 3) and 11 secret stages.
But that's just my personal oppinion.
One question out of interest: Why did you count the stages like Angel Island Zone, Sandopolis Zone and Chaos Hill Zone (or whatever it was called) as secret stages. In my oppinon those stages which base on real Sonic 2D stages should be regular stages. Because they base on real Sonic stages as I said and also because there should be more regular stages than secret stages.
AIZ, SZ, CHZ and Lava Reef Zone being changed as regular stages would make a total amount of 18 regular stages which is similiar to Mega Man world (world 3) and 11 secret stages.But that's just my personal oppinion.
Chaos Angel confirmed?!
SCORE.
SCORE.
lol, back from inactivity again.
Since I have a laptop, I'll be able to run this stuff without any lag. Which means I'll actually be able to finish things I said I was going to do! Yay.
Since I have a laptop, I'll be able to run this stuff without any lag. Which means I'll actually be able to finish things I said I was going to do! Yay.
So, have any of you decided whether Lava Powerhouse, Mean Bean Machine, and Westopolis Dash will actually be in?
I have a suggestion for City Escape: Dynamite Dux's enemies!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8R7FWYvYQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8R7FWYvYQ
I myself have a suggestion for City Escape- Alex Kidd missing persons posters. A bit of dark humour concerning SEGA's first mascot's abject dissepearence following the demise of the Master System. If you want to go all out, you could have it say "Last seen in Shinobi Land"
Launch Base/Egg Rocket sounds rather clunky, so I suggest that it should be called Cape Robotnik Zone. I already made the change in the Wiki, if you don't mind.
The actual level will be called Launch Base Zone. I just put it as "Launch Base/Egg Rocket" so people would know that it also incorporates Egg Rocket Zone into the level.
| QUOTE (Ben66 @ Mar 22 2009, 04:44 PM) |
| The actual level will be called Launch Base Zone. I just put it as "Launch Base/Egg Rocket" so people would know that it also incorporates Egg Rocket Zone into the level. |
I see now. Well, I still think Cape Robotnik sounds cool, and it was the only other name besides "Launch Rocket", "Egg Base", or "Egg Rocket Base".
I love what I'm hearing for the stages! And a PSO level? Amazing! I'm actually kinda suprised that one will turn up! Awesome!
| QUOTE (MacHeath @ Mar 22 2009, 09:55 AM) |
| I myself have a suggestion for City Escape- Alex Kidd missing persons posters. A bit of dark humour concerning SEGA's first mascot's abject dissepearence following the demise of the Master System. If you want to go all out, you could have it say "Last seen in Shinobi Land" |
I'm not sure if this is reliable, but Kidd may see something in the future.
| QUOTE (Rorschach @ Mar 22 2009, 06:53 PM) |
| I'm not sure if this is reliable, but Kidd may see something in the future. |
Some missing poster sprites sound easy enough.
If someone hasn't already started designing the Altered Beast/Golden Axe fusion level, I can make some sketches for layouts. Since they're both basically beat-em-ups, I can try putting an emphasis on fighting a bunch of tougher enemies placed throughout each relatively simple section.
Also, if you want me to try sketching layouts for other levels, please let me know.
For Robotnikland, though, I think that this would be a very amusing soundtrack.
Also, if you want me to try sketching layouts for other levels, please let me know.
For Robotnikland, though, I think that this would be a very amusing soundtrack.
We can't use music from TV shows or movies, even if they are based on a game.
Oh look,Gen had his name subtly
embeded within the halls of epic
forever.
Genesis Isles.
Ok not technicaly spelled right but fffffffuu.
embeded within the halls of epic
forever.
Genesis Isles.
Ok not technicaly spelled right but fffffffuu.
QUOTE (WhiteRoseBrian @ May 3 2009, 06:41 PM)
If someone hasn't already started designing the Altered Beast/Golden Axe fusion level, I can make some sketches for layouts. Since they're both basically beat-em-ups, I can try putting an emphasis on fighting a bunch of tougher enemies placed throughout each relatively simple section.
Also, if you want me to try sketching layouts for other levels, please let me know.
For Robotnikland, though, I think that this would be a very amusing soundtrack.
Second one is Win!
Remix of that (for loop) would be good in some of the more "silly" Robotnik encounters! or at least for henchmen!
Also, if you want me to try sketching layouts for other levels, please let me know.
For Robotnikland, though, I think that this would be a very amusing soundtrack.
Second one is Win!
Remix of that (for loop) would be good in some of the more "silly" Robotnik encounters! or at least for henchmen!
How about one of these for whenever you fight Robotnik?
They can't use anything from modern games 08 and up. Others are fine.
I really like that orchestral Sonic 3 boss music. I think that would work really well.
Say, wasn't there supposed to be a level modeled after the Sky Deck from Sonic Adventure? Did that get replaced by the Sky Battery Zone?
No it is still a secret stage. Sky Deck is a regular stage.
My Favs Robotnik Remixs are:
or
The second song could start with a video of the last boss in Sonic 3 & K up till the real music kicks in where Robotnik smashes though the screen in a similar but more hardcore mech!
or
The second song could start with a video of the last boss in Sonic 3 & K up till the real music kicks in where Robotnik smashes though the screen in a similar but more hardcore mech!
I think this one would be better suited because it combines the boss themes from Sonics 1, 2, 3, and Knuckles. That way, we wouldn't have to choose just one.
QUOTE (Calvan @ Mar 23 2009, 05:31 AM)
| QUOTE (Rorschach @ Mar 22 2009, 06:53 PM) |
| I'm not sure if this is reliable, but Kidd may see something in the future. |
Some missing poster sprites sound easy enough.
Here's one for ya!
Ahaha! That's exactly what I was thinking, Mr3ursious! That's perfect! Now we just gotta see what the devs think of it.
Mushroom Kingdom Fusion's Eggman is based strictly on the version in the games, isn't he? I ask because I thought of this high-quality drawing. Do you suppose he could take on this appearance?
http://marama-tsg.deviantart.com/art/Dr-Ju...otnik-106662730
http://marama-tsg.deviantart.com/art/Dr-Ju...otnik-106662730
He's based strictly on the games only, although the Robotnikland stage will have ststues of his various appearances.
I can sprite those statues if you want.
We found a treasure trove of custom Sonic sprites a while back, and it had most of the ones we would need, so I don't think that would be necessary. However, I could be wrong.
Let's see what other tracks we could consider using for battles against Robotnik.
Here's my choices:
Mini Boss
Stage Boss
http://www.redwingsmusic.com/?p=22
Final Boss
Of course, I'd edit some of them, like the beginning part of the final boss theme.
Mini Boss
Stage Boss
http://www.redwingsmusic.com/?p=22
Final Boss
Of course, I'd edit some of them, like the beginning part of the final boss theme.
Within the thread on the master source, someone brought up Scratch and Grounder as bosses for a level.
I found some sprites.
http://spriters-resource.com/custom_edited/sonic/sheet/18233
I found some sprites.
http://spriters-resource.com/custom_edited/sonic/sheet/18233
Ooh, I like those sprites. Not sure if we could use them (Can't see a way to make a fight with those), but they look nice. They even have defeated poses!
Ben asked me to sketch layouts for the Ice Cap Zone. Using sheets from the Spriters' Resource for a reference, I sat down at the drafting table and sketched on larger papers made for drawing mangas. I was concerned that posting the actual images in here would stretch the page too much, so I posted links here instead.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7217/icecap1.png
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/548/icecap2.png
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7217/icecap1.png
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/548/icecap2.png
Hmm, actually I don't like that sketch that much to be hinest. I absolutely dislike the fact that there are so many non-Sonic based enemies (like Yetis) or the plants in part II. I would suggest to include more Sonic elements and make the stage actually look more difficult.
Sorry for the criticism.
Sorry for the criticism.
I appreciate the honesty and candor. I can try to explain myself.
I didn't know enough about the robotic enemies in the Sonic games (I never actually owned any of Sega's consoles) to add them to the sketch. Only later did I think of adding those Clucks from Spinball. I tried adding the hills and slopes seen on the sheets for the Ice Cap and Ice Mountain Zones. As for the plants, I wanted some other means besides springboards for the player to climb upwards in the inside of the mountains? What about the Yetis, you ask? I just think that they could fit into snowy levels and they already have sprites posted on the Spriters' Resource.
Oh, and Ben asked that I omit the loops. He also expressed satisfaction. He can also change the layout as needed.
I didn't know enough about the robotic enemies in the Sonic games (I never actually owned any of Sega's consoles) to add them to the sketch. Only later did I think of adding those Clucks from Spinball. I tried adding the hills and slopes seen on the sheets for the Ice Cap and Ice Mountain Zones. As for the plants, I wanted some other means besides springboards for the player to climb upwards in the inside of the mountains? What about the Yetis, you ask? I just think that they could fit into snowy levels and they already have sprites posted on the Spriters' Resource.
Oh, and Ben asked that I omit the loops. He also expressed satisfaction. He can also change the layout as needed.
I'm gonna go with Slit on this one.
The sketch looks more Mario than anything.
Study the level layouts of Sonic games before retrying the sketch.
The sketch looks more Mario than anything.
Study the level layouts of Sonic games before retrying the sketch.
... Wait. No loops. In ICE CAP?
One of the notable things about that stage was the multiple loops that ya had to hit at high speed spindash to bust through the ice..
One of the notable things about that stage was the multiple loops that ya had to hit at high speed spindash to bust through the ice..
| QUOTE (legoman727 @ Jul 14 2009, 02:41 PM) |
| ... Wait. No loops. In ICE CAP? One of the notable things about that stage was the multiple loops that ya had to hit at high speed spindash to bust through the ice.. |
Loops haven't been programed...yet.
Yep, nevertheless they will be programmed and should be put in stages already.
I sketched the new layouts for the first two rooms. As for the third, Ben can simply stretch out the slopes.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2117/icecap1new.png
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1895/icecap2new.png
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2117/icecap1new.png
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1895/icecap2new.png
That looks great Brian. The addition of those Ice Cap Zone gimmicks from the original game definitely gives it stronger assertion as a sonic level, and it also maintains a nice, original layout. Keep up the good work.
Yep, that design is much better than the previous one. Maybe the person who's going to make this stage (Ben I think) might add some loopings for the first part as well.
How about these tracks for the Golden Axe/Altered Beast level?
You may want to remove the first section with the vocals.
This arrangement comes from the Sega Ages version of the first Golden Axe. The graphics may be crude, but that music still sounds nice. You can try any of the tracks from that version of Golden Axe.
This could also work.
Now I also searched tracks that we can probably use for Tides of Terror.
You may want to remove the first section with the vocals.
This arrangement comes from the Sega Ages version of the first Golden Axe. The graphics may be crude, but that music still sounds nice. You can try any of the tracks from that version of Golden Axe.
This could also work.
Now I also searched tracks that we can probably use for Tides of Terror.
I'd suggest using Ecco songs from the Sega Genesis versions, as those are probably more well-known.
http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00524/
http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00003/
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/65811
http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00524/
http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00003/
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/65811
I brought this video into the chat and Ancara suggested that it can be the track for fighting with Scratch and Grounder.
I have to admit, that is a badass rendition.
I'll jump on the Sonic level idea bandwagon with Palmtree Panic Zone:
http://mkfusion.ipbfree.com/index.php?show...=0&#entry119125
http://mkfusion.ipbfree.com/index.php?show...=0&#entry119125
Question. Didn't Scratch and Grounder first come from AoStH, anyways, making them ineligible for MKF?
| QUOTE (legoman727 @ Aug 3 2009, 04:43 PM) |
| Question. Didn't Scratch and Grounder first come from AoStH, anyways, making them ineligible for MKF? |
They made an appearance in the game Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine.
Their models (in AoSTH) were based off robots from Sonic2. (Grounder=Drill Thing from Aquatic Ruins, Scratch=Chicken from Wing Fortress, Coconuts=monkey from Emerald Hill)
I don't know if that would verify or not though.
http://mkfusion.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=6164 ARK Topic I made. Plotwise, it needs work, but I pretty much summarized it up.
No love for Sunset Park zone as a stage? I recommend it for it's Third Act music alone. Maybe I should do a topic for a Sunset Park Zone
| QUOTE (Thorn @ Aug 18 2009, 10:55 AM) |
| No love for Sunset Park zone as a stage? I recommend it for it's Third Act music alone. Maybe I should do a topic for a Sunset Park Zone |
Sunset Park will be incorporated into Havoc Canyon Zone
Hmm, what's happening with tails' Marble Zone, now that there's a Marble Bridge Zone? Will you use some parts of tails' stage? Will Act 1 be based on Bridge Zone and Act 2 on Merble Zone?
Also, what happened to Lava Reef Zone? Was it renamed to Magma Mine Zone? Which other stages should be used for MMZ?
Also, what happened to Lava Reef Zone? Was it renamed to Magma Mine Zone? Which other stages should be used for MMZ?
Marble Bridge Zone has been decided to be a cross between Bridge Zone and Marble/Marble Garden Zone. Likewise, Angel Island Zone has been merged into Thick Jungle Zone. Simply cutting down on some stages by fusing their concepts together. Marble Bridge will sort of represent the "second stages" of the Sonic series.
Magma Mine is the result of altering Lava Reef to be a general representation of lava and mine-based levels in the Sonic series.
Magma Mine is the result of altering Lava Reef to be a general representation of lava and mine-based levels in the Sonic series.